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  • Journal Bearing VS Ball Bearing - Hybrid Turbos.com

    2012-6-13 · Ball bearing innovation began as a result of work with the Garrett Motorsports group for several racing series where it received the term the ‘cartridge ball bearing’. The cartridge is a single sleeve system that contains a set of angular contact ball bearings on either end, whereas the traditional bearing system contains a set of journal ...

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  • Journal Bearings vs. Ball Bearings | TM Sport & Racing

    2011-9-21 · I prefer hydrodynamic journal bearings over most ball bearing units, personally, due to their serviceability. That is my own personal opinion. When a ball bearing turbo fails, aside from typical seal damage, it tends to cause more damage than a typical journal bearing turbo to other components.

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  • Journal vs. Ball Bearing Turbo | Supra Forums

    2016-8-16 · Seeing the difference in how easily a journal bearing spins vs a ball bearing isnt quite fair when you are doing a bench comparison since you arent running hot oil through the journal bearing. I do believe that on a lower boost application you can strike the right balance between size and response but on a larger high hp setup with larger turbo ...

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  • Turbo Design Preferences: Journal Bearings vs. Ball ...

    2011-9-22 · Journal vs. Ball Bearing Turbo. Jump to Latest Follow 21 - 40 of 53 Posts. Prev. 1; 2; 3; Next. First 2 of 3 Go to page. Go. Last. Sound Performance · Premium Member. Joined Feb 12, 2001 · 11,273 Posts #21 · Sep 21, 2011. Oh my it is not even close. ...

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  • Journal Bearings vs. Ball Bearings - What's the

    2009-10-1 · the turbo bearing system. Competitor Ball Bearing Options Another option is the hybrid ball bearing. This consists of replacing only the compressor side journal bearing with a single angular contact ball bearing. Since the single bearing can only take thrust in one direction, a thrust bearing is still necessary and drag in the turbine side ...

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  • Ball Bearing VS Journal Bearing | Turbo Dynamics.co.uk

    2016-8-16 · Seeing the difference in how easily a journal bearing spins vs a ball bearing isnt quite fair when you are doing a bench comparison since you arent running hot oil through the journal bearing. I do believe that on a lower boost application you can strike the right balance between size and response but on a larger high hp setup with larger turbo ...

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  • Turbo Design Preferences: Journal Bearings vs. Ball ...

    2009-9-7 · Journal Bearing Turbo vs. Ball Bearing Turbo. Facts: Journal Bearing: 1. Cheaper to buy than Ball Bearing 2. Easily rebuildable and maintenanced 3. Oil cooled 4. Tried and true technology Ball Bearing: 1. More costly but spools faster and more efficiently. 2. Ball bearing allows for higher rpms to be achieved vs. journal bearing 3. Very ...

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  • TURBO CHOICE? Journal Bearing vs. Ball Bearing | 8th ...

    2015-2-26 · I've been looking into the advantages of a ball bearing turbo vs the normal journal bearing turbos. Does anyone have any insight or experiences they could offer? 2006 5.9 Mega, 180 Injectors, DPS Triple Turbos 3 x 64mm, BD intercooler, , EFI Live, Motorsport CP3 stroker, Hamilton Cam Stg.3, Valve Springs, ARP Head Studs, MBRP exhaust

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  • Ball-bearing vs Journal bearing turbos | Dodge

    2011-3-24 · 6) With a properly designed manifold and properly selected turbo for your setup you can actually see better spool from the new journal bearing turbo's. My CON reasons to using a Journal vs Ball bearing are as follows: 1) Longer cool down time for journal bearing turbo. 2) Slightly slower spool time than ball bearing turbo. hmmm actually cannot ...

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  • Journal Bearing VS Ball Bearing Turbos || cost vs ...

    2009-9-8 · TURBO CHOICE? Journal Bearing vs. Ball Bearing. Jump to Latest Follow 21 - 31 of 31 Posts. Prev. 1; 2; First 2 of 2 Go to page. Go. G. GETMONEYADAM · Registered ...

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  • TURBO CHOICE? Journal Bearing vs. Ball Bearing |

    2007-1-18 · The only difference you will see is spool up time. With the ball bearing chra you will see full boost somewhere around 300-500 rpm's sooner than with a standard journal bearing. There will be no horsepower difference between the two.

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  • Turbo question(ball bearing vs journal bearing ...

    2010-10-19 · Right, basically I bought a Tomei ball bearing turbo turbo a couple of years ago and I like it, however whilst roaming the internet I discovered Tomei had brought out a new range of turbos with a roller bearing. The roller bearing ones are listed as being capable of more power than the ball bearing ones but not by much.

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  • Are roller/journal bearings turbos 'better' than ball ...

    2008-9-5 · A bb turbo has steel or ceramic bearings instead of a brass bushing. They are suppose to spool 25% faster than a journal bearing turbo. They get feed less oil pressure because the shaft is supported by the bearings unlike a journal bearing turbo which relies on oil pressure to suspend the shaft in oil to keep it from touching the brass bushings.

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  • Ball Bearing turbo's? | Dodge Cummins Diesel Forum

    2006-10-13 · Journal bearing turbo's should have no shaft play at all from what I read when new but dual ball bearing should have alittle side/side play but no in/out. Then I came across another posting saying 'All turbo's come with very little shaft play new maybe 1/16 to 1/32 of a inch side/side play.'

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  • TURBO CHOICE? Journal Bearing vs. Ball Bearing | 8th ...

    2009-9-7 · Journal Bearing Turbo vs. Ball Bearing Turbo. Facts: Journal Bearing: 1. Cheaper to buy than Ball Bearing 2. Easily rebuildable and maintenanced 3. Oil cooled 4. Tried and true technology Ball Bearing: 1. More costly but spools faster and more efficiently. 2. Ball bearing allows for higher rpms to be achieved vs. journal bearing 3. Very ...

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  • which turbo to get. Ball Bearing vs. Journal Bearing ...

    2013-5-15 · I chose the 20G-XT for my car and ended up with 365 whp (see my profile for current mod list). At my time of purchase, I was advised that the price difference between the XT and XTR didn't really justify the difference in performance for a daily driver. Yes, ball bearing turbos spool faster than journal bearing turbos, but there are a bunch of other factors that will have a similar or greater ...

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  • Ball-bearing vs Journal bearing turbos | Dodge

    2015-2-26 · I've been looking into the advantages of a ball bearing turbo vs the normal journal bearing turbos. Does anyone have any insight or experiences they could offer? 2006 5.9 Mega, 180 Injectors, DPS Triple Turbos 3 x 64mm, BD intercooler, , EFI Live, Motorsport CP3 stroker, Hamilton Cam Stg.3, Valve Springs, ARP Head Studs, MBRP exhaust

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  • journal vs. ball bearing | Honda D Series Forum

    2007-6-28 · The biggest reason to get a BB turbo is almost every single one is more efficient than a similarly sized journal bearing turbo. The latest generation of Garrett wheels (cuz if you are using anything but a Garrett turbo, I suspect you don't have any clue anyway) are vastly more efficient which means you will make more power at the same PSI because of how much cooler the intake charge will …

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  • Journal Bearing VS Ball Bearing Turbos || cost vs ...

    2011-3-24 · 6) With a properly designed manifold and properly selected turbo for your setup you can actually see better spool from the new journal bearing turbo's. My CON reasons to using a Journal vs Ball bearing are as follows: 1) Longer cool down time for journal bearing turbo. 2) Slightly slower spool time than ball bearing turbo. hmmm actually cannot ...

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  • ATP TURBO - The Premiere Provider of Turbocharging

    2015-10-8 · Dual Ball Bearing vs. Journal Bearing (Precision turbo) - posted in Power and Drivetrain: Hey all, Im in the process of picking up a 1200HP (Precision 5858) turbo kit for my GTR. I have the option of a standard kit with journal bearings or for 1200 more get Dual Ball Bearings. Everywhere I have read states that there is really only 150rpm difference in spool between the two.

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  • Dual Ball Bearing vs. Journal Bearing (Precision turbo ...

    2015-9-20 · Modifications and Technical Support. Engine - Turbo. Idle oil pressure with journal vs. ball bearing turbos/troubleshooting oil pressure

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  • Idle oil pressure with journal vs. ball bearing turbos ...

    2013-9-20 · In my feverish quest to understand turbos the best I can, I came across this JEWEL of a thread* comparing a T67 ball bearing turbo to a T67 journal type on a Supra. *I look at Supra's for data since they have relatively same size engines as ours and are …

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  • A very, very, very informative thread comparing ball ...

    2008-3-23 · The biggest difference in the driving experience between the journal and ball-bearing turbos is the transient response (boost recovery after a shift) and off to on boost performance. The best way I could describe both is how 'snappy' the car feels relative to spool time in each case.

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  • Journal vs. Ball Bearing Turbo | Page 3 | Supra Forums

    2011-9-23 · In comparing the benefits and features of journal bearing vs. ball bearing turbochargers, it's important to note that, as per all five of the major manufacturers, less than 2% of the total production of turbochargers is actually ball-bearing. In some cases, such as MHI, it's less than 1%. It's a low-volume product for these 1st Tier manufacturers.

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  • Dual Ball Bearing vs. Journal Bearing (Precision turbo ...

    2015-10-8 · Dual Ball Bearing vs. Journal Bearing (Precision turbo) - posted in Power and Drivetrain: Hey all, Im in the process of picking up a 1200HP (Precision 5858) turbo kit for my GTR. I have the option of a standard kit with journal bearings or for 1200 more get Dual Ball Bearings. Everywhere I have read states that there is really only 150rpm difference in spool between the two.

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  • Ball Bearing Turbo Guide - Punishment Racing

    2020-1-17 · Ball-bearing cartridges offer improved control over shaft motion, improving reliability for both everyday and extreme driving conditions. The opposed angular contact bearing cartridge eliminates the need for a thrust bearing. Thrust bearing failure is a common issue with journal bearing turbos.

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  • Journal Bearing turbo vs Ball bearing turbo- quick

    2009-3-8 · td04l is journal bearing. if you would have two turbos at the exact same size, one beeing ball bearing the other one beeing journal bearing, the ball bearing …

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  • Difference between ball bearing turbo and td04? |

    2008-9-5 · A bb turbo has steel or ceramic bearings instead of a brass bushing. They are suppose to spool 25% faster than a journal bearing turbo. They get feed less oil pressure because the shaft is supported by the bearings unlike a journal bearing turbo which relies on oil pressure to suspend the shaft in oil to keep it from touching the brass bushings.

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  • The Garrett Ball Bearing Turbo: Benefits | Diesel ...

    The journal bearing has long been the brawn of the turbocharger, however a ball-bearing cartridge is now an affordable technology advancement that provides significant performance improvements to the turbocharger. Ball bearing innovation began as a result of work with the Garrett Motorsports group for several racing series where it received the term the ‘cartridge ball bearing’.

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  • Ball Bearing turbo's? | Dodge Cummins Diesel Forum

    2017-4-10 · The first set of M Turbo Stage 2 Ball Bearing in the UK will be installed in the first week of April, we will share some results once the tuning is done The MT stage 3 ball bearing is also in development, which utilises the TD04 and this should be available to purchase within a month or two.

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  • - GCG Turbochargers Australia Pty Ltd

    2008-5-17 · Making this model CT3B turbochargers triple ceramic ball bearing center pack able to take the largest thrust loads and disbursing the loads which increases the spool characteristics and allow the turbo to build boost much faster than a conventional thrust bearing turbocharger allowing the motor to make more power at a lower RPM or run a larger ...

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  • Turbo Ball Bearing Conversion

    2014-4-16 · Bearing System Even though we have been long-time proponents of efficient journal bearing systems, for this product line we opted to use rolling element (dual row, ceramic ball) bearings. Once you have reached target boost, ball bearings offer little or no advantage in performance at full throttle.

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  • Table of Contents - BorgWarner Turbo Systems

    2009-3-8 · td04l is journal bearing. if you would have two turbos at the exact same size, one beeing ball bearing the other one beeing journal bearing, the ball bearing …

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  • Difference between ball bearing turbo and td04? |

    2021-6-4 · Garrett has two types of bearing systems; traditional journal bearing; and ball bearing. The journal bearing system in a turbo functions very similarly to the rod or crank bearings in an engine. These bearings require enough oil pressure to keep the components separated by a hydrodynamic film. If the oil pressure is too low, the metal ...

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  • TURBOS - Does my turbo require an oil restrictor? |

    2021-5-17 · The plain journal bearing, shown in Figure 1, is the most basic hydrodynamic journal bearing. As the name implies, this bearing has a plain cylindrical bore. A shaft rotating in a plain journal bearing is illustrated in Figure 2. The eccentric rotating shaft will develop an oil …

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  • Turbo Talk: Basic Guide to Choosing a Turbo for Your ...

    2011-9-21 · Also im running my crank case breather right into turbo air inlet. helps smoking a little vs running open breather. There are traces of oil making up to turbo also. 06 Raptor 727: 5mm HR, +1 P&P head, 12:1 CP, 54mm TB, 1000cc inj, BB intake, 5050, PCV/IGN/auto tune, Dynatek coil, Monster duals, E …

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  • JOURNAL BEARING DESIGN TYPES AND THEIR

    2018-4-11 · Either turbo I go with, I will be getting ball bearing. I am leaning towards the 6466 but if the spool is significant then I could change my mind. Also I don't want to be that guy who has way bigger of a turbo then they need. Let me know what your guys opinions would be for my power goals and any other pros/cons I might not be seeing!

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  • Journal bearing turbo: oil restrictor or not? | Modded ...

    Turbocharger, Garrett T3/T4E, 60 trim 4' comp hsg, anti-surge, .48 A/R T31 4-bolt Outlet Turbine Code: GRT-TBO-L94 Price: 795.00

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